Transcription: Well, I think it's very difficult for President Ford to explain the difference between the pardon of President Nixon and his attitude toward those who violated the drop laws. As a matter of fact, I don't advocate amnesty, I advocate pardon as a difference, in my opinion, and in the course of the ruling of the Supreme Court and according to the definition of the dictionary. Amnesty means that that what you did was right. Pardon means that what you did, whether it's right or wrong, you're forgiven for it. And I do advocate a pardon for draft evaders. I think it's accurate to say that two years a ...